DomainSherpa – Down The Rabbit Hole – March 23, 2022: Epic Nuclear Marshmallow Meltdown with John Berryhill
DomainSherpaMarch 23, 2023 | Updated: April 18, 20242
As we say on DomainSherpa – all roads lead to domains. And in the reverse, domains has us venturing “down the rabbit hole” into different topics all the time. This is a tech-adjacent, digital asset, pop-culture, tangent-positive monthly podcast – with some domains stuff thrown into the mix for good measure.
In this episode, co-hosts JT & Jen Sale are joined by leading domain attorney John Berryhill along with Drew & Ammar to talk about some additional legal issues related to domains with a lot of discussion about Whois privacy, parking domains, stolen domains, some issues at Epik.com, and a whole lot more!
So, tune in and jump down the rabbit hole with the Rabbit Hole Gang!
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Jonathan Tenenbaum (JT) is an accomplished Internet industry veteran and digital asset expert. An attorney by trade, he spent over 14 years with Web.com in various legal and business roles, including nearly 5 years managing NameJet, the leading domain name aftermarket platform.
Now Chief Operating Officer & General Counsel of MediaOptions, the top domain brokerage agency, Jonathan is also the Host & Executive Producer of DomainSherpa - where they cover all types of digital assets, including crypto and NFTs, and where "all roads lead to domains"!
Jen is the CEO at Evergreen.com, a boutique domain name agency and ICANN-accredited registrar. She leverages more than 20-years of industry experience, confidentially acquiring, selling, appraising, developing and managing high-value domain names, portfolios and digital assets for start-ups, major brands, agencies, investors and public figures, worldwide.
Andrew Rosener is the CEO of the industry-leading domain name broker Media Options.
Andrew is widely considered a thought leader and expert on domain name value & methodology as well as domain name sales & acquisitions. With 20 years experience with domain names, Andrew has leveraged his knowledge and expertise to make MediaOptions the go-to domain name firm for startup & company domain acquisitions as well as high value domain name sales.
John Berryhill Ph.d., Esq. is an Intellectual Property Attorney that deals with Patents, Copyrights, Trademarks and Domain Name Issues. He has represented many registrants in UDRP hearings, as well defended high-profile clients such as CamRoulette.com and DigiMedia.com. He has been described as "one of the best" domaining attorneys in the industry.
Ammar Kubba is a principal and the chief executive officer of Thought Convergence Inc. and its various portfolio companies, including TrafficZ, the industry’s oldest and most experienced domain parking and traffic monetization service; LeaseThis.com, the global leader in domain leasing solutions; and Idea.net, an incubator for the development of avant-garde Internet sites, services and technology.
Through the Name Intelligence acquisition in 2008, Thought Convergence is an owner in DomainTools.com, the ultimate source for domain research, and DomainRoundtable.com, annual conference focused on domain names, new products, technologies and companies in the domain marketplace.
Ammar is a leading authority on Internet domain development and traffic monetization, as well as an active proponent for the continuing advancement and evolution of the domain industry.
DomainSherpa – Down The Rabbit Hole – March 23, 2022: Epic Nuclear Marshmallow Meltdown with John Berryhill
As we say on DomainSherpa – all roads lead to domains. And in the reverse, domains has us venturing “down the rabbit hole” into different topics all the time. This is a tech-adjacent, digital asset, pop-culture, tangent-positive monthly podcast – with some domains stuff thrown into the mix for good measure.
In this episode, co-hosts JT & Jen Sale are joined by leading domain attorney John Berryhill along with Drew & Ammar to talk about some additional legal issues related to domains with a lot of discussion about Whois privacy, parking domains, stolen domains, some issues at Epik.com, and a whole lot more!
So, tune in and jump down the rabbit hole with the Rabbit Hole Gang!
Domain Sherpa, I watched your March 23 podcast, and want to thank you for the honorable mention, and for your compassion. I want you all to know that my story is true. I sold Candida.com on September 27th, for $100,000. Epik was supposed to take a 9% commission and send me $91,000. This money was intended for my retirement. I would love a chance to tell my story. Could I tell my story live on your show? Below is a post that I put out on namepros on March 13th:
So, I spent 3 hours today at a crisis clinic. Despite all of the supplements that I am taking to reduce cortisol., all my exercise, and even 10 hours in a 180 degree sauna last week, I still can’t shake the anxiety that causes me to awake at night with jolts of electrical impulses, and my hands tremble while I try to type on my computer. So, I left my new job early today to go to a crisis center. Surely they must have something to get this to stop.
If anyone knew the history of my story, they would understand the reason that this has been just so devastating for me. Selling Candida.com should have been a joyous occasion for me. Sadly, it has been the opposite.
I was terribly sick with Candida ( a systemic fungal condition) from 2000-2008. Eight years of pure hell. I was misdiagnosed with so many different health conditions, it would blow your mind. Doctors were medicating me, and giving me one health diagnosis after another. And I was on a lot of medication and seeing doc’s on a regular basis became a part of my life. Then, one day, after doing research online, I figured it out, on my own, and I self treated for it at home, and did a major detox. It took me two years to recover. While I was out of work, and healing, I founded a non profit to raise awareness of the Candida health condition, and then I sold part of my 401K plan to buy Candida.com, so that I could create a place for Candida sufferers to find help. But, it was not a successful venture, well not a profitable one. While I was out of work, I depleted every penny I had ever saved to recover my health. And fortunately, I did. I was 48, and I was flat broke and starting all over again. I moved to California to stay with family, and to go back to work.
That was 12 years ago this month. I slowly crawled back to life, day by day. But I never recovered financially. I left my Candida.com website up, with valuable information on how to get well, and I am sure that I helped a great many people over those years. But I needed to sell it to recover financially, and when I sold it on September 28th, 2022, I cannot tell you how elated I was. That something had finally come back to me, and that everything I did to help everyone all these years had actually come back to me in a good way. I thanked God. I felt a sense of relief and thought I actually might be able to retire one day.
But here I am six months later, back to the days of visiting doctors, taking new supplements, and on the verge of a panic attack day and night. Today, I was at a crisis center for three hours, trying to get help.
Candida.com was personal and meaningful to me, because I bought it with purpose. And for good in the world. I know that God intended for that reward to come back to me, and not for someone else to steal it from me. And I know that God is watching.
Thank-you very much for sharing your feedback and insights, Kathleen!
I’m truly sorry to hear about your health challenges. Not to mention the additional stress you find yourself under regarding your business and domains.
I’m not sure what we could do to help you and others, but my inbox is open if you wish to reach out (jen at evergreen .com).
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Domain Sherpa, I watched your March 23 podcast, and want to thank you for the honorable mention, and for your compassion. I want you all to know that my story is true. I sold Candida.com on September 27th, for $100,000. Epik was supposed to take a 9% commission and send me $91,000. This money was intended for my retirement. I would love a chance to tell my story. Could I tell my story live on your show? Below is a post that I put out on namepros on March 13th:
So, I spent 3 hours today at a crisis clinic. Despite all of the supplements that I am taking to reduce cortisol., all my exercise, and even 10 hours in a 180 degree sauna last week, I still can’t shake the anxiety that causes me to awake at night with jolts of electrical impulses, and my hands tremble while I try to type on my computer. So, I left my new job early today to go to a crisis center. Surely they must have something to get this to stop.
If anyone knew the history of my story, they would understand the reason that this has been just so devastating for me. Selling Candida.com should have been a joyous occasion for me. Sadly, it has been the opposite.
I was terribly sick with Candida ( a systemic fungal condition) from 2000-2008. Eight years of pure hell. I was misdiagnosed with so many different health conditions, it would blow your mind. Doctors were medicating me, and giving me one health diagnosis after another. And I was on a lot of medication and seeing doc’s on a regular basis became a part of my life. Then, one day, after doing research online, I figured it out, on my own, and I self treated for it at home, and did a major detox. It took me two years to recover. While I was out of work, and healing, I founded a non profit to raise awareness of the Candida health condition, and then I sold part of my 401K plan to buy Candida.com, so that I could create a place for Candida sufferers to find help. But, it was not a successful venture, well not a profitable one. While I was out of work, I depleted every penny I had ever saved to recover my health. And fortunately, I did. I was 48, and I was flat broke and starting all over again. I moved to California to stay with family, and to go back to work.
That was 12 years ago this month. I slowly crawled back to life, day by day. But I never recovered financially. I left my Candida.com website up, with valuable information on how to get well, and I am sure that I helped a great many people over those years. But I needed to sell it to recover financially, and when I sold it on September 28th, 2022, I cannot tell you how elated I was. That something had finally come back to me, and that everything I did to help everyone all these years had actually come back to me in a good way. I thanked God. I felt a sense of relief and thought I actually might be able to retire one day.
But here I am six months later, back to the days of visiting doctors, taking new supplements, and on the verge of a panic attack day and night. Today, I was at a crisis center for three hours, trying to get help.
Candida.com was personal and meaningful to me, because I bought it with purpose. And for good in the world. I know that God intended for that reward to come back to me, and not for someone else to steal it from me. And I know that God is watching.
Thank-you very much for sharing your feedback and insights, Kathleen!
I’m truly sorry to hear about your health challenges. Not to mention the additional stress you find yourself under regarding your business and domains.
I’m not sure what we could do to help you and others, but my inbox is open if you wish to reach out (jen at evergreen .com).
Take care,
Jen